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Rants & Raves
Rating: 3.06 / 5 (16 votes)  
Posted: 2012 Dec 21 - 06:34

Regarding 'We are a Christian nation'

First of all, I am quite curious why Wikipedia.org is used as a source. I myself am in high school, and am not allowed to use Wikipedia as a source or I will get marked down.

My father says using Wikipedia as a source in college is illegal. Wikipedia can be changed and edited. I could go in and make revisions, which is why Wikipedia's not a reliable source.

Secondly, the rant says, "In any case, the forefathers, the founders of our nation, were Christian." That is also where Wikipedia.org is cited. However, I want to talk about the phrase itself. Our nation's forefathers were not all Christian. Yes, some were, but not all.

Benjamin Franklin, for example, was a deist.

Benjamin Franklin did believe in a divine power, however, he did not participate in any organized religion, such as Christianity.

Source: www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message510510/pg1)

Thomas Jefferson was a deist, as well. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity.


For example, those who visit the Jefferson Memorial in Washington will read Jefferson's words engraved: "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every from of tyranny over the mind of man."

When they see the word "God" many Christians see this as "proof" of his Christianity without thinking that "God" can have many definitions, ranging from nature to supernatural." (Source: www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm)

John Adams was a Unitarian. He rejected many fundamental doctrines of conventional Christianity. (Source:www.adherents.com/people/pa/John_Adams.html)

In the article, it mentions references of God throughout history and on historical monuments.

A Muslim could see the word God and refer to Allah, the Islamic God. A spiritual person with no set religion could see the word God as just a higher power, who guides them, under no specific religion. (Source: www.everystudent.com/features/connecting.html)

American religiousness:

Very religious: 40 percent

Moderately religious: 29 percent

Nonreligious: 31 percent

The percents above were from a recent poll this year, Jan. 2 to Nov. 30. As you can see, not even half of America is very religious and 69 percent is religious. However, it does not specify Christianity.

Source: www.gallup.com/poll/159050/seven-americans-moderately-religious.aspx)

I am not saying Christianity is a dying religion. I myself am not Christian, I do not believe in any higher power, however many of my friends are religious.

However, I also have friends who are religious, but who are not Christian. I have a few Jewish friends.

When I lived in Colorado before I moved here, the Mormon population was huge. A lot of my friends were Mormon and all went to church together.

The last thing I would like to talk about is a quote from the rant I am writing about. "The Capitol building has the word God (Deus) carved into its walls..." 

Deus is Latin for God, yes, but it does not specify which God. On (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deus), Deus refers to Zeus, the Greek god. 

According to (wahiduddin.net/words/name_god.htm), the word God is a relatively new word, a European invention.

God can variously be defined as:

The proper name of the one supreme and infinite personal being, the creator and ruler of the universe, to whom man owes obedience and worship

The common or generic name of the several supposed beings to whom, in polytheistic religions, divine attributes are ascribed and divine worship rendered

The name sometimes applies to an idol as the image or dwelling place of a god.

Thank you for taking your time to read this.

Editor's note: The www.godlikeproductions.com masthead also contains the headings: "Conspiracy Theorists," Lunatic Fringe" and "UFO," but is getting nearly 2 million page views per day.

The www.nobeliefs.com/Jefferson.htm contains supposed quotes from Thomas Jefferson with no other links to check for accuracy. However, this particular quote does not appear on the memorial itself.

The www.adherents.com/people page, about the religion of John Adams, contains many opinions and quotes from papers, letters and other's articles, with no links.

The www.everystudent.com is a feature article from Marilyn Adamson about the beliefs of the major world religions and how Jesus' teachings differ from them, without focusing on any similarities.

In the www.galluppoll.com/poll/159050/seven-americans-moderately-religious.aspx, the participants were asked only two (establishment) questions for the poll:

1. Is religion an important part of your daily life?

2. How often do you attend a church, a synagogue or a mosque?

The http://wahiduddin.net/words/name-god.htm is a web page of a man named "Wahidudding, called "Living from the Heart," and is mostly dictionary definitions of the word "God."

Response to 'Goodbye America, goodbye Israel'

All hope is indeed not lost. We came perilously close to losing our beloved country several times during its birth in the 18th century.

But with leaders of courage with a thirst for freedom and the blessings of divine providence, we prevailed over what was then the most powerful empire on earth.

Take heart. We will once again emerge from the same shackles that our forefathers fled England to accomplish.

We again nearly lost our United States of America in the mid 1860s with the tragic loss of hundreds of thousands of American lives on both sides. Again, with great leaders and divine providence, we survived.

We will also survive this. It will take time. It will take patience.

The Revolutionary War lasted eight years, (sound familiar?) and still wasn't over. We still had to fight the War of 1812 and numerous other skirmishes for years to come.

And here we are, living our lives as best we can, trying to teach our children as best we can to most certainly not say goodbye to America, but to educate them about our rich heritage and the dire need to recapture the exceptionalism that is the United States of America.

As for Israel, you need not worry about it. They were chosen as God's people more than 2,000 years ago. That has not and will never change.

Have you not noticed that they do not lose wars with their enemies? There is good reason for that and not just because of U.S. support, which they have less of these days.

You are right about that.  They have God's support for eternity.

I don't know if anybody thinks the same as you do

"Goodbye America" will never happen and people like you need to be educated more about the history and the past before making any conclusions.

Israel has many nukes, more than any nations around them. Why?

If you go buy a gun, are you going to just keep it in the closet or to use and kill someone?

Well that's what happening right now with Israel, trying to make trouble, as always, and hide behind someone else (U.S.).

The president is an American and will do whatever it takes to protect Americans and America's interest, even if he has to use Israel as a scapegoat.

You need to study more about the facts and learn before judging.

Thoughts from Dec. 7

Seventy-one years ago today, Sunday, Dec. 7, I was on one of six U.S. Navy troop ships, carrying 20,000 British Army troops, for a destination of Iraq.

At 10 p.m., or 2200 hours Navy time, I heard over the headphones in the forward gun mount the message that Pearl Harbor was bombed.

Our convoy had the official designation "William Sail 12 X Task Force 14."

Two heavy cruisers, the U.S.S. Quincy and the U.S.S. Vincennes, and four of our escort destroyers broke formation immediately and headed for the Panama Canal.

We, with our remaining escorts, made landfall and entered the port of Capetown, South Africa, the next day, to the consternation of the inhabitants.

They could not understand how American ships, a peaceful nation at that time, could have a warring nation's troops aboard.

No one knew that (Winston) Churchhill and (Franklin D.) Roosevelt had decided to flaunt the Geneva Conventions.

During our stay in Capetown, our destination was changed to Singapore, where the troops, when delivered, surrendered.

Presidential bashing

I don't understand why Hometown News is continuing to print letters that are bashing our president, Barack Obama.

I don't understand why you guys keep printing those, and you don't print anything on the other side, not in this week's paper anyway.

I know you say you print the ones that come in, but that's just not true, because I have left some that were not printed. So, I know you don't print them as they come in.

Anyway, maybe you'll print this, but I doubt it.

Editor's note: Checking the Rants & Raves section for the last several weeks in all five Hometown News issues in Brevard County, we can find only one reference to President Barack Obama. It was in a rant about Israel. It mentioned what the rant writer thought the president's opinion might be in regard to the United States-Israel relationship.

'Stand your ground' not fair

This is about the "stand your ground" law that exists in Florida.

In light of the two most recent cases, where two young, black men getting shot dead by two white men, who could have safely walked away I don't see how "stand your ground" even applies to those men in those two cases.

They had a chance to get away safely but their egos took control and as a result, two young men are dead. Regardless of their race, they are dead.

What is interesting about this law is that if you are a domestic and you are a married person and you have to protect yourself because this does happen sometimes in a bad domestic situation.

It seems to me that I've been following the news for a while here in Florida, and the women or the men get arrested. They go to jail and stand your ground doesn't apply and it is a ridiculous thing.

It is a very unfair law.

More dollars at the airport

In regard to the item in one of your Melbourne issues "Does the airport need our dollars?" I ran into the same problem when I was going out (of parking).

I paid my fee, whatever it was, and I asked directions, and it took so long that the man said, "Now you owe me another dollar."

I had to pay it. And that is unfair. That is so unfair.

I just thought I would make my Rant & Rave issue with you people. You can print it if you like.

The person who wrote that first article is absolutely right. They are mean people and I found them very, very rude.

Four points of correction

It seems the Friday paper had its share of people who are still angered and afraid over the election. Wow, they are mad, especially the good Christians and Mr. "Now You Know The Facts."

Well, except that these ranters got a few of their facts wrong, some very important ones.

First, President (Barack) Obama is not making us a socialist and Muslim country (first, that would be an oxymoron), since he is neither and has neither the desire, nor the power, to accomplish such things. That rhetoric you use has been dis-proven many times. The election is over, and it did not work. Let's move on, please.

Second, we are not a Christian nation. We are a religiously free nation.

We can choose to believe in a higher power of any denomination or not believe at all. We call that personal freedom, protected by the First Amendment. Besides the religious propaganda that has been spread for over the last 3,500 years needs to be updated, things have changed.

Third, we are not a republic form of government. We are (a) Constitution federal republic, based on a representative democracy. (Check out the Electoral College to start). We elect people to represent our interests to the government. We are not simply a majority rule country. Please check to see who won the popular vote in the 2000 presidential election for proof.

The elected representatives have the ability to make laws. The laws are subject to the Constitutional "Rule of Law." The U.S. Constitution emphasizes the protection of the rights and freedoms of individuals. It also places constraints on these leaders and the will of the majority, keeping them from making and imposing laws against the rights of the minority. This is also called civil liberties, enshrined in the Bill of Rights.

The ranter is correct that the Declaration of Independence does mention a divine creator. Unfortunately, this is only a historical document. The U.S. Constitution is a legal document that guides the rule of law in this country. There is no mention of God, Jesus or religion in the U.S. Constitution, except for the freedom to exercise it and that it cannot be used to exclude anyone from serving in this government. Please take the time to read this wonderful document.

Fourth, Armageddon: Really? Well, do me a favor, let's go to a lawyer and have all your goods put in a trust and turned over to me on Dec. 22, because I am betting that Mayans / Nostradamus predictions of the end of the world do not coincide with the hostilities in the Middle East.

Are you willing to put all your worldly goods behind your rant?

Didn't think so.

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